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Thu, May 03, 2007

[Link][Icon]Dell only offering Ubuntu on low-end hardware?

I've seen a few mutterings that Dell is deliberately trying to make selling Linux fail by only putting it on low-spec machines: If you've got blisteringly-good Vista performance and Linux that just grinds along, they say, how is it possible to compete?

Well... Let's face it, nobody has yet encountered the mythical beast that is "fast Vista" [Smiley]. But XP can run pretty well, and Dell are still offering that, so the point still stands.

Or does it?

No.

Allow me to explain: As I have (notoriously) said before, Linux is not Windows - and neither are its hardware requirements.

I have a laptop. It's an HP nc4000. This is a rather old model, it has a 1.6GHz Pentium CPU and low-end integrated ATI 340M graphics. It arrived pre-installed with Windows XP, and it was painful to use. Slow performance, and the hard drive never stopped paging. Ever.

Dell is apparently going to offer Linux on the Inspiron notebooks. The cheapest of which is the 1501, and the lowest-spec of which is a 1.8GHz 64-bit AMD with ATI RADEON® Xpress1150 256MB graphics.

I imagine this will struggle a bit to run Vista with its aero interface, and may not be all that fast with even XP. And this is going to run Ubuntu?

Yes. It is. Because my crappy old laptop, despite being the lowest-powered computer in the house, is running Ubuntu Feisty right now, with absolutely no problems. It has an occasional hiccup with the 3D desktop, admittedly, but other than that its performance would be considered perfectly adequate by any modern PC user.

A faster, newer, 64-bit CPU? It'll run like blazes!

Dell is putting Ubuntu on low-end machines because they CAN. Vista is the resource hog, the "Spend thousands or watch it crawl" OS. Ubuntu is Linux: It doesn't need high-end hardware, so why bother selling it on high-end hardware?

Why not instead say "Buy a $600 laptop with Ubuntu and get the same performance as a $2000 laptop with Vista" and see how many people suddenly decide that maybe that Linux thing is worth a try after all?

Comments:

Comment from: sinn3r [Member] Email · http://sinn3r.org/
600$ is quiet a lot.

I run my Ubuntu on an Compaq Armada e500 with a P3 (800 MHZ).

Xp doesn't even start the setup, my videocard is too low.

My Ubuntu is one of the fastest system i've ever seen, 19 seconds till first TTy prompt.

Linux is future :)
PermalinkPermalink 03/05/07 @ 13:54
Comment from: oneandoneis2 [Member] · http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/
It's not a trivial amount, certainly. But considering Dell's top-of-the-line XPS laptop starts at $3000, it's relatively low.
PermalinkPermalink 03/05/07 @ 17:07
Comment from: sinn3r [Member] Email · http://sinn3r.org/
Ok, i did not see that point of view, but as a pupil i don't have it either ;)
PermalinkPermalink 03/05/07 @ 17:41
Comment from: sokuban [Member] Email
How come everyone's ubuntu is so good now? 19 seconds is practically impossible for ubuntu. (I have less on Arch now though.)

Did ubuntu improve that much since Dapper? I used to use Dapper and I can tell you it is extreemly slow. (The test computer is like 8 years old, but for Linux that should be nothing.)
PermalinkPermalink 06/05/07 @ 04:44
Comment from: oneandoneis2 [Member] · http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/
Let me put it this way: As a die-hard "old school" Linux user who looks back at Slackware with fondness and is still quite a fan of Gentoo, Feisty is the first release of Ubuntu that I've considered actually making my main distro.

I've got Arch installed on my desktop - Only just, I've installed almost nothing so far, it's all CLI and so forth - but I'm hoping to get a fully-sorted installation done soon, so I'll give you my impressions ASAP
PermalinkPermalink 07/05/07 @ 21:08
Comment from: sokuban [Member] Email
I'm going to try the latest Xubuntu then. I've been tempted to return to it for a while but I keep telling myself that I would be unhappy with the result and I should stay with Arch.

I'm having a few problems with Arch. I can't mix Chinese and Japanese well. (Font problems.) I'm hoping ubuntu would fix my problems because they care about languages a lot. I currently only want to steal the fonts that ubuntu uses and try to get it working on Arch. (I'm assuming that the distro that brags about language support has perfect Chinese/Japanese mixing.)

Also the xfce terminal randomly dies whenever I type Japanese. I have a theory it has something to do with the enter key. (My theories make no sense and have no background, don't believe it.)
PermalinkPermalink 08/05/07 @ 14:45

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