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Sat, Nov 01, 2008
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I don't like Windows much as an OS. I don't like Desktop Environments (DEs) in general either. I like GNU/Linux running FVWM2 with an Xterm always just a click away.
So you might think that KDE on top of Windows Vista would be pretty much the last thing that I wanted to mess around with.
And in many ways, you'd be right.
However, KDE is still, at heart, a Linux desktop. It has things like virtual desktops & lots of customisability. It's better than the godawful Vista environment.
So I thought I'd take a look at the KDE on Windows project and see how it was coming these days. The KDE-installer package was a quick & easy download, and duly ran me through a list of options, all of which I left as the default, and then asked me what packages I wanted to install. I selected everything but the foreign language packs, and then sat back as it downloaded them all - 52 in total.
It jammed at 65% of file 2 (KDEbase) so I cancelled, went back in, and chose a different mirror. This time, it downloaded everything fine. Until 92% when it jammed again. Another retry, and "third time lucky" - it finally moved onto the next file.
It motored through the next few files, which were rather smaller, then jammed again. Another restart, and it was at least clever enough to not try and download the files it already had. It was still a slow process - the KDE guys adding a "retry" option instead of just having to restart the whole process every time you hit a problem would have helped enormously.
Eventually, it succeeded in getting all the files downloaded, and then went through the installation. Around an hour after starting, it was complete.
What happens next?
Let's start by trying a KDE staple: Konqueror.
Up it popped, after authorising it to run (Yay Vista!) and I told it to look in my Home folder. It worked fine.. Pointed it at the web, aimed it at my blog - since I know this is both complex and fully standards-compliant - and was rather disappointed. Half the images weren't rendered, the page as a whole was way too narrow for no apparent reason.
There's a LOT of other KDE apps that I have yet to play with. But you don't seem to get any kind of actual "KDE" desktop - it's just the applications?
So.. first impressions: A long and painful installation process, and though you get a lot of *nix applications, you still have to stick with the Windows desktop. And it doesn't seem to come with some of the best-known apps, such as amaroK, konsole and K3B, which I find odd.
It's very impressive that, courtesy of Qt, they've managed to port so much across from *nix to Windows... but surely the whole point was to give you a consistent user interface? What's the point of having "the K Desktop Environment" available for Windows if you don't port the Desktop Environment itself..?
I'll look into it more later.. but right now, I can't say that I'm exactly thrilled. Which is a shame, because I'm a fan of Qt and some of KDE and I was hoping to say something nice at this point..
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So Friday (last) started out so well, I knew it was going to be an awesome day.
I slept in (ahhh, bliss) and went for a morning walk to mail some....er...mail (because, seriously, what else can you mail? turtles?) and it was sunny and warm and I hadn't had any caffeine yet so I got myself a Slurpee. Nothing says awesome Summer day like a 10 am Coke Slurpee cooling you down in the sun.
But do you know what really tipped the morning into full-blown awesomeness? The two shirtless, amazingly hot guys who jogged past me, sweaty and gorgeous as I walked home. Ahhhhh, sugar, sun, and sexy, my own personal Summer trifecta.
I went over to where C-Dawg was staying and picked her up (so there would be no driving necessary) and we came back to my apartment, poured ourselves a summer-worthy drink and headed out on the town.
We wandered through downtown, people watching and talking and laughing and window shopping and then we headed to one of the local patios and ordered up a pitcher and some appetizers.
And that's when the real fun began.
You see, C-Dawg and I love people watching. And more than that, we love making up little stories about people and trying to guess who they are. We'd soon discovered that Friday would have to be known as "Everyone Looks Familiar Day" because I kept on seeing people that I thought looked familiar but I couldn't tell if they actually were or if I was just imagining it.
We decided that the couple next to us had just boated in on their yacht and that the guys across from us were all discussing their volleyball league's last game.
We also tried to narrow down which men C felt were too young for me and which she deemed "just right." Once we'd narrowed my age-group down to a ten year span she tested me to see if I could actually tell which guys were ok and which were in the "are you crazy, he's way too young" category.
I did not do well at this. (sigh)
As the pitcher got emptied, a table behind us became filled with a bunch of guys. C-Dawg, needing to "get out of the sun" (which we're pretty sure the guys could tell was an obvious ploy for her to be able to stare at the guys instead of having to pretend to look around and can I just say thank goodness for sunglasses and how easy they make it to check out cute guys?) sat next to me and we started to figure out the back story for these guys.
Later, C decided to choose which of the guys she'd set me up with and when she did she very kindly me that I could go out with the nice, sweet, geeky one because I'm a geek too at which point I protested until she promised she was a geek as well and it wasn't a bad thing. (Strangely enough I know what she means.)
At one point, the waiter came over and there'd been this on-going joke between the three of us because servers kept on trying to bring us food we hadn't ordered and I kept on making this dumb joke about it and then when C-Dawg told me the joke was getting old and the waiter laughed, I turned to him and said (and I quote) "Hey, I'm just going to keep saying it because it never be's not funny!"
At which point he suggested that this wasn't our first patio of the evening and I couldn't stop laughing because I couldn't believe I'd said "be's" and how as I'd said it it had TOTALLY been a word.
Ahhh alcohol, what silly things you do to my brain.
We hit up a few more places after that and went for dinner at my favourite place and then watched an awesomely bad movie back at my place. (Hi, I'm Victoria and I'm going to say the word 'place' as many times as possible in one sentence. I are a good writer.)
It was pretty darn awesome and I'm sure there's more I can think of, like how she wet-willied a statue and how she almost convinced me to give nice geek guy my number and how we sat outside the best ice cream place in town and convinced a bunch of other people that yes, they really should go inside and get a cone.
A good day, a great afternoon, a fun evening. It always be's like that with the C-Dawg. I can't wait til we get to do it again.
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