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Thu, Jan 15, 2009

[Icon][Icon]Well done Microsoft

• Post categories: Omni, Rant, Technology, My Life

If you've read much about Vista, or used it, you'll probably be familiar with UAC, User Access Control.

AKA the annoying way Vista asks you for permission to do just about anything by default.

Unlike almost all other Vista users you read about, I left UAC switched on. It was annoying, sure, but it was one more layer of security on an OS that, frankly, needs all it can get.

For a whole year of owning this laptop, which came with Vista, I left UAC switched on.

I have now turned it off. Not because it was annoying me. But because it was actually impossible to use Windows without doing so.

With UAC on, I couldn't alter some of the settings in the control panel without right-clicking and setting "Run as admin". Even then I still couldn't alter some things.

Every time I ran Firefox, I was told that it wasn't the default browser, did I want it to be? Even though it WAS the default browser. Clicking on links in other apps failed to open any browser, even when IE was set to the default. Which was hard, because IE couldn't run properly unless it was told to run as admin...

The whole thing was an unworkable mess. UAC wasn't asking me for permission to do things, it was just stopping them working at all.

I suppose a system that renders your computer unable to do anything could be considered something that makes it very secure.

But on the whole.. I think not.

So yes, well done, Microsoft. Your security measures are so bad that even the people who are willing to put up with them are left unable to. That's pretty impressive even for you.

5 comments

Timmy
Comment from: Timmy [Visitor] Email · http://blog.tsmacdonald.com
I've been scratching my head about how Microsoft can take a good idea from Linux, but mess it up to the point of being worse than nothing.
People don't have trouble with being prompted for a root password, or sudo-/gksu-ing applications. Why is the UAC bad enough that even laid back people like you are bothered by it? Fail.
15/01/09 @ 18:13
oneandoneis2
Comment from: oneandoneis2 [Member] · http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/
Pretty impressive really, isn't it?
15/01/09 @ 18:31
sokuban
Comment from: sokuban [Member] Email
Well you have to be a little fair.

Linux has been built from ground up as a multi user operating system. All the tools for it are meant to work with the whole privaleges system. So of course there will be no problems when it comes to programs functionality with an unprivaleged user because these programs have been designed for such use.

With windows on the other hand, it was pretty much assumed by everyone that you were running on an administrator account to do your everday things. Therefore people made programs that work better with an administrator account.

Vista has the idea of making everyone run as an unprivaleged user for their everyday tasks, which is a good idea, but the problem is that there is so much old software that gets confused by this.
15/01/09 @ 20:27
oneandoneis2
Comment from: oneandoneis2 [Member] · http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/
That *is* a fair point, sok.. but we're talking about Firefox 3, IE7 and a number of core Windows components that aren't working here.. not exactly legacy programs!
15/01/09 @ 20:31
Dave
Comment from: Dave [Visitor] · http://gyvernetworks.com
Some of your issues stem from lack of 'elevated permissions,' which you may have seen in some of your Vista denial messages: "the requested operation requires elevation." Google "real administrator account" and follow the steps, it should solve the majority of your problems.
14/10/10 @ 14:51

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