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Fri, Jul 16, 2010

[Icon][Icon]Mozilla suck

• Post categories: Omni, FOSS, Rant, My Life, Helpful

So.. I installed the latest version of Thunderbird recently, and after all the trouble I had doing an upgrade a while back, this time I did a totally new installation, from scratch.

It still sucks. Sorry, but it does. A few nice features, but overall I hate it and much preferred the older version.

But anyway. I'm sticking with it. The biggest problem I had with it was that my scroll wheel just didn't work: No matter what I did, I couldn't scroll up or down the page.

But this was minor, and I figured I'd find some fix eventually.

But a minute ago, I just upgraded Firefox to the latest version. And suddenly, the scroll wheel was broken for FF too.

Now *that* is a problem. Never mind scrolling through pages, I use Mouse Gestures nonstop when browsing - I literally can't bear browsers that don't have this feature. No scrollwheel = No Firefox. It's that serious.

So I did some research, and my God there's a lot of people have scroll wheel problems with Mozilla software.

None of the fixes they mentioned worked for me, tho. Until I finally tracked it down.

I have an app. called Katmouse installed. It gives you a "focus follows mouse" functionality that I hate not having in Windows (It's built-in on Linux :P ) but disabling this app. made scrolling work in both FF and TB.

But I hate not having Katmouse working. Luckily, it's possible to configure Katmouse to ignore certain applications, and once I had set this up, I have globally-sorted scrolling on every application. Except I can no longer scroll a Mozilla app. without clicking on the window first.

I have no idea what Mozilla have done to mouse handling to break it on both apps, but I'm really quite disappointed that I've had to resort to this. Every other app. I have installed works fine, and both FF and TB *used* to - why has an upgrade bollixed it all up?

Sigh.

6 comments

sokuban
Comment from: sokuban [Member] Email
Don't you really hate it when an old version of an app "works" and a newer version "doesn't work" then when asked about the problem they say that "your xxxx is the problem, our app is fine".

As for Thunderbird, the biggest feature loss for me in the move from 2 to 3 (a long time ago) was the removal of the "are you sure you want to send your file in an unsupported encoding" dialog, where in ver 3 it doesn't ask and just sends it in unicode. The justification was "there is no reason to want to send stuff in an encoding that can't encode it".

Well sure, there isn't, but that dialog was always the reminder to change the encoding of the mail to whatever encoding I needed. I often write mail in English, Japanese and sometimes Chinese and Korean, and most people want mail in a specific encoding, not unicode.

So now I just have to remember everytime I send a mail in another language to change the encoding. As if that wasn't bad enough, I need to remember to change it again every 5min (or before I send it) because every 5min Thunderbird will want to automatically change the encoding to unicode when it saves a draft.

Unicode unicode x_x
17/07/10 @ 02:09
pdh
Comment from: pdh [Visitor] · http://www.simply-click.org
You're a monster! People use use focus on mouse hover are nuts, what's wrong with clicking?
20/07/10 @ 09:06
oneandoneis2
Comment from: oneandoneis2 [Member] · http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/
The same thing that's wrong with the SC code :P
20/07/10 @ 09:08
sokuban
Comment from: sokuban [Member] Email
I recently switched to focus on mouse hover, and for the most part I'm liking it.

Only problem is that there is this bug that happens when I use a keyboard shortcut to change pages, sometimes focus is locked onto a window until I move the cursor into that window (and then onto another window). Just moving to another window and even clicking it doesn't give focus unless I move the cursor over the one hogging focus first.

FVWM mailing list says it's an app problem.

Hey, you use FVWM too, do you have this problem?
29/07/10 @ 22:00
oneandoneis2
Comment from: oneandoneis2 [Member] · http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/
Nope.. never encountered it. I use sloppy focus, is that the one you're on?
30/07/10 @ 09:53
sokuban
Comment from: sokuban [Member] Email
Yea, that's what I'm on.

Hmm, strange.
30/07/10 @ 12:35

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